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Meeting Minutes

OpenOffice.org

Weekly Meeting Virtual User Interface (VUI) Team

Date

March 21th 2002

Time

10:00h, MEST

Location

Cupertino, eham-02

Attendees

Christian Lippka (CL)
Daniel Rentz (DR)
Hans-Peter Burow (PB)
Christian Jansen (CJ)
Oliver Specht (OS)
Frank Schönheit (FS)

Minute Taker

FS (next: PB, DR,GT, CL, OS, FS)

Distribution List

http://ui.openoffice.org/protocols

Table of Contents

1 Action Items

2 Round table


1 Action Items

Item

Responsible

Status

previous items

Create a concept of Common UI factory design

FS

stalled

Toolboxes in dialogs must get the correct image list set (standard/high contrast)

All ui developers

open1

High Contrast mode (HC mode) for Listboxes, Treelistboxes and Browseboxes must be handled where used with bitmaps

All ui developers

open 1

Calling SetModeBitmap for all dialog controls with bitmaps

All ui developers

open 1

Check context menu handling

CJ

done 2

new items

check naming convention for high contrast bitmaps, check build process for high contrast image lists

OS

new

create Bug for UNO-Accessibility of BrowseBox

FS

new

create design document for Accessibility API of the BrowseBox

DR

new


Comments on Action Items

  1. These items are waiting for the implementation of the interfaces to set bitmaps/image list for high contrast mode and the creation of high contrast ready bitmaps

  2. Regharding the selection upon opening a context menu, there are different conventions in different products. The common denominator is that when opening a context menu via mouse, on an object which does not belong to the current selection, the selection is changed to this object. Differences are whether or not the original selection is restored after the menu is closed.
    We think that as a general rule, we should change the OOo behaviour so that the selection follows the mouse click (which currently is not the case), but is not restored afterwards (due to the efforts this would imply especially for more complex scenes than a tree list box).

2 Round table

  • CJ told us that Stella nearly finished creation of the high contrast versions of all our office bitmaps.
    It arose that it is yet unclear how these new bitmaps are to be use to generate image lists. Currently, the bitmap tool decides from the first two letters of the output name of a image list which input bitmaps to use - this would require new naming conventions for the high contrast images (currently they have a suffix "_h").
    OS is to clarify this.

  • DR told there there still does not exist a formal bug for the UNO Accessibility of the BrowseBox. FS is to write one.
    Given that there is the possibility that DR can't finish the Accessibility implementations for the BrowseBox, FS asked DR to create some specification document for the to-be-implemented API, to ease a possible later handoff.

  • There was a discussion about the cursor control in the BrowseBox (mainly in the database components). Currently, there are some inconsistencies between the BrowseBox, Calc Sheets and Tables in Writer. Some of the different behaviour does make sense, some perhaps doesn't.
    The attendees agreed that a comprehensive solution would require extensive specification effort, and that it would not be worth it, as there are no real problems with the current behaviour.

  • PB told us of a performance problem in the Accessibility API of the ComboBox. As it was decided that a combo and list boxes expose all their entries (even the not visible ones) as children, we may have a problem with AT tools. For example, accessing the ComboBox in the Help component (with about 4000 entries) with the JavaMonkey takes a very long time which prevents reasonably working with it.
    As soon as a product build is available with the API implementations in the combo box, PB will do some profiling to investigate the reason of the performance problem. It may be possible that the concept as such (expose all entries as objects) is the problem itself. Together with the various bridges involved, the problem may be inherent ....

  • FS asked whether or not the current toolbox design is final. He claimed that especially the visualization of "checked" toolbox slots is suboptimal. CJ told us that Stephan Schaefer is still not finished with the implementations, and especially the checked slots are to be improved.

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